Comments on: Marie Antoinette – A Biography http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:01:00 -0700 hourly 1 By: Fabian http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-266 Fabian Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:01:00 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-266 I find Marie Antoinette to be the most fascinating woman in France's history and there are definitely many interesting women in that arena. It is very unfortunate however that the image that is most commonly held of her is that which was created by her detractors. She is incredibly enigmatic precisely because so much false information was spread about her both during her life and after her death. I've been reading about her for years and always feel as if I never quite get to know her. Visiting the palace at Versailles, and the Petit Trianon in particular, is about as close as I've ever felt I could come to her and her world. I find Marie Antoinette to be the most fascinating woman in France’s history and there are definitely many interesting women in that arena. It is very unfortunate however that the image that is most commonly held of her is that which was created by her detractors. She is incredibly enigmatic precisely because so much false information was spread about her both during her life and after her death. I’ve been reading about her for years and always feel as if I never quite get to know her. Visiting the palace at Versailles, and the Petit Trianon in particular, is about as close as I’ve ever felt I could come to her and her world.

]]> By: Mishelle http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-265 Mishelle Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:30:09 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-265 Ironically, I took a silly quiz on facebook in which it stated that I was like Marie Antoinnette in a past life. I became intrigued and stumbled onto this Biography. I found this Biography about Marie Antoinnette quite interesting and disturbing at the same time. It is sad to know that society plays such a devastating end to someone who was trying to enjoy life as she wished. She probably wanted to taste life and all it had to offer. Who really wants to be quiet and reserved all of the time? I am guessing that she was certain of herself and wasn't concerned as to what people thought of her because she knew she was a good person who cared for the people who were loyal to her. Too bad she was scrutinized and seperated from her children. This makes me think of how often society does this in today's time. Makes one wonder if we are treating someone unkindly and unfairly as well. Ironically, I took a silly quiz on facebook in which it stated that I was like Marie Antoinnette in a past life. I became intrigued and stumbled onto this Biography. I found this Biography about Marie Antoinnette quite interesting and disturbing at the same time. It is sad to know that society plays such a devastating end to someone who was trying to enjoy life as she wished. She probably wanted to taste life and all it had to offer. Who really wants to be quiet and reserved all of the time? I am guessing that she was certain of herself and wasn’t concerned as to what people thought of her because she knew she was a good person who cared for the people who were loyal to her. Too bad she was scrutinized and seperated from her children. This makes me think of how often society does this in today’s time. Makes one wonder if we are treating someone unkindly and unfairly as well.

]]> By: courtney http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-260 courtney Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:18:28 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-260 Ummm.. i feel very sad for marie antoinette. for the life she had to receive at a very young age. lost and unaware of her true fate.im glad that she went through these things to let us know that being royalty isnt always what you expect. and that it comes with sacrifices and consequences just as much as anything else would. i feel she play her positoin as queen as well as she could and that she did a great job! and for that i praise her for. i also feel anyone in her positoin would of had the same fate.. but they wouldnt of been able to play the role as great as she did.. soo really what im trying to say is that noone is perfect royalty or not were all human and made to make mistakes and go through pain and suffering. nd life is never fair even for a queen..and for that being said ..LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!!!!:) because she did her best.. something i kno i wouldnt have the power and strength to even imagine doing.Thank you Marie..for doing your best. thanx thats all i got to sayy.. :P -Court Ummm.. i feel very sad for marie antoinette. for the life she had to receive at a very young age. lost and unaware of her true fate.im glad that she went through these things to let us know that being royalty isnt always what you expect. and that it comes with sacrifices and consequences just as much as anything else would. i feel she play her positoin as queen as well as she could and that she did a great job! and for that i praise her for. i also feel anyone in her positoin would of had the same fate.. but they wouldnt of been able to play the role as great as she did.. soo really what im trying to say is that noone is perfect royalty or not were all human and made to make mistakes and go through pain and suffering. nd life is never fair even for a queen..and for that being said ..LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!!!!:) because she did her best.. something i kno i wouldnt have the power and strength to even imagine doing.Thank you Marie..for doing your best. thanx thats all i got to sayy.. :P
-Court

]]> By: Clare http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-259 Clare Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:29:46 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-259 Yes there was a movie - The Affair of the Necklace (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242252/). Hilary Swank played Jeanne de La Motte, and Joley Richardson was Antoinette. Yes there was a movie – The Affair of the Necklace (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242252/). Hilary Swank played Jeanne de La Motte, and Joley Richardson was Antoinette.

]]> By: Juniper http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-258 Juniper Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:04:58 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-258 I just found this site after reading about her on wikipedia, after seeing the movie with Kirsten Dunst. I thought this site had better info than wikipedia and I am glad I found it, esp the part about the "necklace affair"......wasn't there a movie about that?? Anyone remember the name, or am is that just wishful thinking?? I also wanted to add my 2 cents to the whole debate as to whether or not she was a "good person" No one who lives today really knows what she was honestly like, I'm sure most ref books of those days were not 100% accurate. I found her story sad, and was disappointed in the way there goverment endned things, but since I was not there for the events, I can't really say that she was mean, or rude or "got what she deserved". From what I've read and seen she seemed to have been someone who was kind and loving. Interesting bit about whether or not the French still hate them today.... that is something I would like to know! I just found this site after reading about her on wikipedia, after seeing the movie with Kirsten Dunst. I thought this site had better info than wikipedia and I am glad I found it, esp the part about the “necklace affair”……wasn’t there a movie about that?? Anyone remember the name, or am is that just wishful thinking??
I also wanted to add my 2 cents to the whole debate as to whether or not she was a “good person” No one who lives today really knows what she was honestly like, I’m sure most ref books of those days were not 100% accurate. I found her story sad, and was disappointed in the way there goverment endned things, but since I was not there for the events, I can’t really say that she was mean, or rude or “got what she deserved”. From what I’ve read and seen she seemed to have been someone who was kind and loving. Interesting bit about whether or not the French still hate them today…. that is something I would like to know!

]]> By: Deb http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-257 Deb Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:32:55 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-257 I have to agree with Lisa's post of 4/22. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong man - until maybe later when they came together as a couple, had their children, and began family life. I don't think she was like Princess Diana because Diana went out of her way to come out of her palace and find out what the people needed - but Marie did not - for whatever reason. Maybe she was just too busy with her children or really didn't care - no one will ever know for sure what her motives were. I'd be interested in finding about some prime sources for her motives. Were all her documents (letters, etc..) destroyed in the revolution? What strikes me as interesting is that so many people in their comments feel sorry for Marie at being married so young. Young marriages were extremely common at the time (not just in royal families) - if you weren't married by 18 you were in danger of being the subject of gossip about why you were still single. Children in the 1700's were not the children we know today. They were given responsibilities at a very young age compared to modern times. They were treated as adults from a very young age and girls often had their first babies as "teen moms". When you think about the average age of death as being 40ish for middle class people - it kind of makes sense to marry young and have your children young. Also, when so many children died young - it made sense to start having them young and to have many of them so that you could have some survive to help do the work of the house and farm. I think that in our treatment of children in these modern times, we have actually allowed our young people stay "children" way too long and be less responsible and less able to adjust to the realities of how tough life really can be - but that's a different topic. I have to agree with Lisa’s post of 4/22. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong man – until maybe later when they came together as a couple, had their children, and began family life. I don’t think she was like Princess Diana because Diana went out of her way to come out of her palace and find out what the people needed – but Marie did not – for whatever reason. Maybe she was just too busy with her children or really didn’t care – no one will ever know for sure what her motives were. I’d be interested in finding about some prime sources for her motives. Were all her documents (letters, etc..) destroyed in the revolution? What strikes me as interesting is that so many people in their comments feel sorry for Marie at being married so young. Young marriages were extremely common at the time (not just in royal families) – if you weren’t married by 18 you were in danger of being the subject of gossip about why you were still single. Children in the 1700’s were not the children we know today. They were given responsibilities at a very young age compared to modern times. They were treated as adults from a very young age and girls often had their first babies as “teen moms”. When you think about the average age of death as being 40ish for middle class people – it kind of makes sense to marry young and have your children young. Also, when so many children died young – it made sense to start having them young and to have many of them so that you could have some survive to help do the work of the house and farm. I think that in our treatment of children in these modern times, we have actually allowed our young people stay “children” way too long and be less responsible and less able to adjust to the realities of how tough life really can be – but that’s a different topic.

]]> By: Gloria castillo http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-255 Gloria castillo Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:37:03 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-255 this is a sad story this is a sad story

]]> By: victoria http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-254 victoria Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:16:12 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-254 Also, was she that pretty? Every picture I have seen of her shows one ugly, blah face. Oh, her luscious endowed breasts cannot be seen. Also, was she that pretty? Every picture I have seen of her shows one ugly, blah face. Oh, her luscious endowed breasts cannot be seen.

]]> By: victoria http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-253 victoria Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:12:05 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-253 A Queen at 14. Did she know what was to be expected from a Queen? Was she brought up to rule France? I'd like to know more about her background, not just her death. What was she like as a 14 year old child? And finally- why is there so much interest in just her and not Louie, A Queen at 14. Did she know what was to be expected from a Queen? Was she brought up to rule France? I’d like to know more about her background, not just her death. What was she like as a 14 year old child? And finally- why is there so much interest in just her and not Louie,

]]> By: Kermi http://www.marie-antoinette.org/biography/biography_english/comment-page-2/#comment-252 Kermi Thu, 08 Jul 2010 08:22:17 +0000 http://makedesignnotwar.com/warblog/?p=877#comment-252 Hi, I've watched the movie & read all the comments above. One thing that everyone must keep in mind is that in that time period it was an acceptible action that the mob had done. The dismeberment, etc. I agree that it was a horrible thing to do & in this age it would be unthinkable in most areas of the world. If you investigate/read/research other monarchies of that time, it wasn't a strange thing to torture, mame & make the innocent say things that would make them be found guilty nor make the innocent seem quilty. Torture of the "unthinkable" for us today was common place in the times of the old days. Even today torture of different sorts are still carried out. Marie was quite young to have been married off, as she was. Pressure from all sides on this young girl would make anyone crazy. It is sad that she had to endure the loss of her children, again that was a common thing then because of the lack of "our" medical knowledge. Kudos, for all your opinions & thoughts. P.S. the whole Jesus/Marie questions/doubts are really trival things to get defensive or not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone should respect others opinons & take them as such. Enjoy your weekend. Hi,

I’ve watched the movie & read all the comments above.

One thing that everyone must keep in mind is that in that time period it was an acceptible action that the mob had done. The dismeberment, etc.

I agree that it was a horrible thing to do & in this age it would be unthinkable in most areas of the world. If you investigate/read/research other monarchies of that time, it wasn’t a strange thing to torture, mame & make the innocent say things that would make them be found guilty nor make the innocent seem quilty. Torture of the “unthinkable” for us today was common place in the times of the old days. Even today torture of different sorts are still carried out.

Marie was quite young to have been married off, as she was. Pressure from all sides on this young girl would make anyone crazy. It is sad that she had to endure the loss of her children, again that was a common thing then because of the lack of “our” medical knowledge.

Kudos, for all your opinions & thoughts.

P.S. the whole Jesus/Marie questions/doubts are really trival things to get defensive or not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone should respect others opinons & take them as such.

Enjoy your weekend.

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