Comments on: A Reputation in Shreds http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:50:59 +0000 hourly 1 By: Chris http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-637 Chris Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:36:59 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-637 While the French revolutionaries may have used Antoinette as a scapegoat, they were not totally injust in their hatred for her or the extravagances of the monarchy at the time. The French monarchy by its very nature lived lavishly often without any regard to what the common people were going through and Marie Antoinette was no exception to the fact. How would you like it if the president of your country was ordering millions of dollars worth of gowns and jewels while you were starving? To say that Marie Antoinette and Louis Auguste did everything in their power to help the ailing French people is simply not true. There are numerous records to show that during the famine and particularly difficult years for the people, Antoinette ordered new Reisener furniture for the Petit Trianon which in today's money could easily cost hundereds of thousands of dollars. In the end, Marie Antoinette lived like royalty and was very much out of touch with her people and their struggles and this is what they hated more than anything. While the French revolutionaries may have used Antoinette as a scapegoat, they were not totally injust in their hatred for her or the extravagances of the monarchy at the time. The French monarchy by its very nature lived lavishly often without any regard to what the common people were going through and Marie Antoinette was no exception to the fact. How would you like it if the president of your country was ordering millions of dollars worth of gowns and jewels while you were starving? To say that Marie Antoinette and Louis Auguste did everything in their power to help the ailing French people is simply not true. There are numerous records to show that during the famine and particularly difficult years for the people, Antoinette ordered new Reisener furniture for the Petit Trianon which in today’s money could easily cost hundereds of thousands of dollars. In the end, Marie Antoinette lived like royalty and was very much out of touch with her people and their struggles and this is what they hated more than anything.

]]> By: Brian http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-536 Brian Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:03:18 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-536 It sounds like Maria was the victim of 18th century attack ads. When will we learn better :-( It sounds like Maria was the victim of 18th century attack ads. When will we learn better :-(

]]> By: je ne veut pas mettre mon nom dsl. http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-529 je ne veut pas mettre mon nom dsl. Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:26:54 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-529 je ne suis pas totalement en accord avec se que vous avez dit le film de copolla n'a pas terni l'image de marie antoinette Copolla la seulement enjoliver pour le cinema c'est sur elle ne passer pas son temp au triadon dans les bras d'un amant mais ce n'est qu'un film qui retrace en gros la vie de marie antoinette en "egsagerer" ( excuser moi pour l'ortographe je ne suis pas tres douer) donc en claire je ne suis pas d'accord avec votre article. et marie antoinette est la plus grande reine de france que je connais du au de mes 12 ans et j'en sais sur elle!! je ne suis pas totalement en accord avec se que vous avez dit le film de copolla n’a pas terni l’image de marie antoinette Copolla la seulement enjoliver pour le cinema c’est sur elle ne passer pas son temp au triadon dans les bras d’un amant mais ce n’est qu’un film qui retrace en gros la vie de marie antoinette en “egsagerer” ( excuser moi pour l’ortographe je ne suis pas tres douer) donc en claire je ne suis pas d’accord avec votre article. et marie antoinette est la plus grande reine de france que je connais du au de mes 12 ans et j’en sais sur elle!!

]]> By: Herstorianna http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-528 Herstorianna Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:19:20 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-528 Great article. I have yet to see the 2006 film as I rarely watch "historical" films due to their annoying habit of making me angry with their lack of actual historic facts. I wanted to share with you a book that you may be interested in reading, it is called Madame Tussaud by Michelle Moran, it is quite a good book about the famous wax-modeller who was at times quite close to the royal family. It is a work of fiction based on historic events and is sympathetic to the Royal family's plight. Great article. I have yet to see the 2006 film as I rarely watch “historical” films due to their annoying habit of making me angry with their lack of actual historic facts.

I wanted to share with you a book that you may be interested in reading, it is called Madame Tussaud by Michelle Moran, it is quite a good book about the famous wax-modeller who was at times quite close to the royal family. It is a work of fiction based on historic events and is sympathetic to the Royal family’s plight.

]]> By: MOGURL http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-486 MOGURL Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:23:11 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-486 I just read a book on Marie Antoinette she was just a victim of the cort i think they should not have killed her she was just a person who was confused by there mean ways I just read a book on Marie Antoinette she was just a victim of the cort i think they should not have killed her she was just a person who was confused by there mean ways

]]> By: Emma http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-467 Emma Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:20:22 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-467 I so enjoyed this well written and objective article. Having been to Versailles and completed detailed research on the Queen, my sympathy and admiration for her has increased and increased. For all those interested in Marie Antionette I would highly recommend the detailed, balanced, scrupulously researched, and un-put-down-able biography by acclaimed historian Antonia Fraser, entitled Marie Antoinette: the Journey. I devoured it, in tears at times, and the copious illustrations are amazing. It makes me so angry when I hear her dismissed as a frivolous, champagne swilling idiot - and she never, never said let them eat cake!! I so enjoyed this well written and objective article. Having been to Versailles and completed detailed research on the Queen, my sympathy and admiration for her has increased and increased. For all those interested in Marie Antionette I would highly recommend the detailed, balanced, scrupulously researched, and un-put-down-able biography by acclaimed historian Antonia Fraser, entitled Marie Antoinette: the Journey. I devoured it, in tears at times, and the copious illustrations are amazing. It makes me so angry when I hear her dismissed as a frivolous, champagne swilling idiot – and she never, never said let them eat cake!!

]]> By: Crystal http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-461 Crystal Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:09:16 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-461 It is so sad how people can judge one another just for silly reasons like this. They judged Marie-Antoinette mostly because she was rich. It is heartbreaking to see all the false accusations that were made against her only to ensure her death...especially the one regarding her little boy. She was so polite and humble, even just before her death, apologising to the executioner for accidently stepping onto his foot. She would have truly been one of the greatest queens if there wasn't so much conspiracy surrounding her. I wonder if the people felt a little guilty after she was executed? It is so sad how people can judge one another just for silly reasons like this. They judged Marie-Antoinette mostly because she was rich. It is heartbreaking to see all the false accusations that were made against her only to ensure her death…especially the one regarding her little boy.
She was so polite and humble, even just before her death, apologising to the executioner for accidently stepping onto his foot. She would have truly been one of the greatest queens if there wasn’t so much conspiracy surrounding her.
I wonder if the people felt a little guilty after she was executed?

]]> By: madamelaprincesse http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-442 madamelaprincesse Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:00:59 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-442 Saying that the 2006 film Marie Antoinette has damaged her reputation is wrong. Of all the marie antoinette films out there I think that that is the most sympathetic of them.I adore 18th century French history and I believe hat Marie antoinette was a misunderstood queen who was thrown into intolerable situations and all her spending was a result of this. Madame la princesse Saying that the 2006 film Marie Antoinette has damaged her reputation is wrong. Of all the marie antoinette films out there I think that that is the most sympathetic of them.I adore 18th century French history and I believe hat Marie antoinette was a misunderstood queen who was thrown into intolerable situations and all her spending was a result of this.
Madame la princesse

]]> By: Sandra Catalfamo http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-433 Sandra Catalfamo Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:47:05 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-433 I have seen the 2006 Marie Antoinette film, until this film I had no interest in this historic figure. After seeing this film I began some additional research about about her. In fact, the 2006 movie does not do any justice for Marie A. It is not even mentioned at the end of this film the factorial fate that encountered the King and Queen, that she was indeed beheaded, if you did not know about the subject, you would think the King and Queen rode off together to another destination. I thank all the previous comments especially those who are quoting from resources and presenting the truth of what happened to Marie Antoinette, her husband and children too!! It is disgusting to think of what happened to them, the French people should be outraged and ashamed with their past actions; the tragedy and humiliation that was thrust upon this family is uncomprehensable!! The 2006 film is more glamorizing of the icon and doesn't tell the story of what actually happened. Another film and far much better in telling the facts about Marie Antoinette is the 1938 film, titled MARIE ANTOINETTE, starring Norma Shearer and Tyrone Power. I would highly recommend this film -- catch it on TCM or Unlimited Movies.com I have seen the 2006 Marie Antoinette film, until this film I had no interest in this historic figure. After seeing this film I began some additional research about about her. In fact, the 2006 movie does not do any justice for Marie A. It is not even mentioned at the end of this film the factorial fate that encountered the King and Queen, that she was indeed beheaded, if you did not know about the subject, you would think the King and Queen rode off together to another destination. I thank all the previous comments especially those who are quoting from resources and presenting the truth of what happened to Marie Antoinette, her husband and children too!! It is disgusting to think of what happened to them, the French people should be outraged and ashamed with their past actions; the tragedy and humiliation that was thrust upon this family is uncomprehensable!! The 2006 film is more glamorizing of the icon and doesn’t tell the story of what actually happened. Another film and far much better in telling the facts about Marie Antoinette is the 1938 film, titled MARIE ANTOINETTE, starring Norma Shearer and Tyrone Power. I would highly recommend this film — catch it on TCM or Unlimited Movies.com

]]> By: Bob A. Rillo http://www.marie-antoinette.org/reputation/reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-431 Bob A. Rillo Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:16:21 +0000 http://www.marie-antoinette.org/?p=1160#comment-431 I have to admit that it was after watching the movie that I decided to do a little research. I think that the film was slightly more sympathetic and humanizing inasmuch as it showed a young woman confronted by a lonely situation doing the best she could and eventually maturing and coping with her situation. At the very least the film did make Marie Antoinette less of a caricature, though after reading some historical accounts and biographical data, as well as this site, the film is really more fiction than fact. I have to admit that it was after watching the movie that I decided to do a little research. I think that the film was slightly more sympathetic and humanizing inasmuch as it showed a young woman confronted by a lonely situation doing the best she could and eventually maturing and coping with her situation. At the very least the film did make Marie Antoinette less of a caricature, though after reading some historical accounts and biographical data, as well as this site, the film is really more fiction than fact.

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