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		<title>By: Marc Louis LeRoux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Louis LeRoux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reluctant to post this, but it is true - I had a great aunt whose first name was Marie Antoinette.  Many ancestor males are named Louis and it is my middle name.  In the years before I knew so much, I was still fascinated by this unfortunate queen.  As I study history more (decades) I have come to feel a great sadness whenever the subject of the French Revolution comes up.  It was such a horrible waste.  It also seems to have begun a modern epic of uprisings, the excesses of which found their (hopefully) final expressions in Stalinist and Maoist purges in the 20th century.  Today, French students riot at the drop of a hat.  There seems to be a trained in reflex for mayhem built into French culture.  That has been seized upon by some of their immigrants, who are now taking it to new dimensions.  Violence is never good, but such excesses also create negative &quot;traditions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reluctant to post this, but it is true &#8211; I had a great aunt whose first name was Marie Antoinette.  Many ancestor males are named Louis and it is my middle name.  In the years before I knew so much, I was still fascinated by this unfortunate queen.  As I study history more (decades) I have come to feel a great sadness whenever the subject of the French Revolution comes up.  It was such a horrible waste.  It also seems to have begun a modern epic of uprisings, the excesses of which found their (hopefully) final expressions in Stalinist and Maoist purges in the 20th century.  Today, French students riot at the drop of a hat.  There seems to be a trained in reflex for mayhem built into French culture.  That has been seized upon by some of their immigrants, who are now taking it to new dimensions.  Violence is never good, but such excesses also create negative &#8220;traditions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Louis LeRoux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Louis LeRoux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the professor of French history.  I have reason to disbelieve your claim as a professor of history, because your details are correct.  However, I am surprised at your poor spelling ability.  Is it possible to become a professor (where) with such a deficit?  Or do let us know if English is your second language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the professor of French history.  I have reason to disbelieve your claim as a professor of history, because your details are correct.  However, I am surprised at your poor spelling ability.  Is it possible to become a professor (where) with such a deficit?  Or do let us know if English is your second language.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments, this is your opinion, the article, specifically about the Diamond Necklace Affair, is the opinion of its author.  Perhaps you would care to read the other articles on the site or join the forum if you wish to discuss these matters further?</description>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to change and update this whole post. For one Marie Antoinette att the age of fourteen, on the day of her marriage to Louis-Auguste, Dauphin of France, she became Dauphine de France. She became Queen of France and Navarre in May 1774 at the age of 19. She  had five children on 19 December 1778 Marie-Thérèse Charlotte  first child and eldest daughter and the only Serviver of the immediate  Royal Family to survive the French Revolution . She was also  Queen of France for twenty minutes, in 1830 do to her husband and cousin.  Then the was a discovery  in there was a pregnancy in 1779. The memoirs of the queen&#039;s lady-in-waiting, Madame Campan, state explicitly that the miscarriage came about after the queen exerted herself too strenuously in closing a window in her carriage, felt that she had hurt herself, and lost the child eight days later do to still birth. Campan adds that the king spent a morning consoling the queen at her bedside, and swore to secrecy all those who were aware of the accident.  She also gave birth to  Louis-Joseph-Xavier-François in 1781 and Louis-Charles in 1785, and a younger sister, Sophie-Hélène-Béatrix in 1786. It was also dicovered that Louis XVI of France her husband did not have any kind of surgery. did not receive the surgery. The Dauphine&#039;s doctor, Jean-Marie Lassonne, examining the Dauphin in 1773, found him to be &quot;well made&quot;, and judged that the problem was one of &quot;clumsiness and ignorance&quot;.[9] This incident was followed several months later by the above-mentioned consummation of July 1773.[5] In addition, there is no record of the King&#039;s receiving surgery, or of his spending several weeks convalescing, as would have been necessary. The fact that his hunting journals show no such break in activity, despite the impossibility of his sitting in a saddle for several weeks after such an operation, strongly suggests that he did not in fact have the surgery.[11]

It has also been suggested, although her mother Maria-Theresa insisted otherwise, that the biological hindrance lay with Marie-Antoinette. Medical correspondence of the time stated that, though inexperienced, Louis was simply &quot;too much of a gentleman&quot; to bring himself to impregnate his young and slender mate. Some sources suggest that it was Marie-Antoinette who underwent some minor surgical operation, to relive her vaginal tightness, which then enabled the royal couple to consummate their union.[12]

The true cause of the couple&#039;s infertility might have been revealed in a letter written by Marie-Antoinette&#039;s brother, Joseph II, to their other brother, Leopold II. In April 1777. Joseph visited Louis and Marie-Antoinette in France, and he had a frank talk with both of them regarding sexual matters. From this, he discovered that the King mated with his wife from a sense of royal duty rather than for the sexual pleasure. There was no problem with the King&#039;s sexual organs: Joseph wrote, &quot;he has strong perfectly satisfactory erections&quot;, and &quot;he sometimes has night-time emissions&quot;. Their problem was reportedly that when the King and Queen had sexual intercourse, &quot;he introduces the member, stays there without moving for about two minutes, withdraws without ejaculating but still erect, and bids goodnight...when he is inside and going at it...[ejaculation] never happens.&quot; In the Emperor&#039;s opinion, this couple consisted of &quot;two complete blunderers&quot;, who had nothing wrong with them aside from lack of sexual knowledge and meaningful desire to mate.[13]

Joseph, it would appear, remedied the couple&#039;s ignorance during his conversations with the two of them. By August, the marriage was finally consummated, and the pair had thanked him for his advice, to which they attributed the consummation.

I am a Professor of French History. I think you should update and change this post because you are giving out false information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to change and update this whole post. For one Marie Antoinette att the age of fourteen, on the day of her marriage to Louis-Auguste, Dauphin of France, she became Dauphine de France. She became Queen of France and Navarre in May 1774 at the age of 19. She  had five children on 19 December 1778 Marie-Thérèse Charlotte  first child and eldest daughter and the only Serviver of the immediate  Royal Family to survive the French Revolution . She was also  Queen of France for twenty minutes, in 1830 do to her husband and cousin.  Then the was a discovery  in there was a pregnancy in 1779. The memoirs of the queen&#8217;s lady-in-waiting, Madame Campan, state explicitly that the miscarriage came about after the queen exerted herself too strenuously in closing a window in her carriage, felt that she had hurt herself, and lost the child eight days later do to still birth. Campan adds that the king spent a morning consoling the queen at her bedside, and swore to secrecy all those who were aware of the accident.  She also gave birth to  Louis-Joseph-Xavier-François in 1781 and Louis-Charles in 1785, and a younger sister, Sophie-Hélène-Béatrix in 1786. It was also dicovered that Louis XVI of France her husband did not have any kind of surgery. did not receive the surgery. The Dauphine&#8217;s doctor, Jean-Marie Lassonne, examining the Dauphin in 1773, found him to be &#8220;well made&#8221;, and judged that the problem was one of &#8220;clumsiness and ignorance&#8221;.[9] This incident was followed several months later by the above-mentioned consummation of July 1773.[5] In addition, there is no record of the King&#8217;s receiving surgery, or of his spending several weeks convalescing, as would have been necessary. The fact that his hunting journals show no such break in activity, despite the impossibility of his sitting in a saddle for several weeks after such an operation, strongly suggests that he did not in fact have the surgery.[11]</p>
<p>It has also been suggested, although her mother Maria-Theresa insisted otherwise, that the biological hindrance lay with Marie-Antoinette. Medical correspondence of the time stated that, though inexperienced, Louis was simply &#8220;too much of a gentleman&#8221; to bring himself to impregnate his young and slender mate. Some sources suggest that it was Marie-Antoinette who underwent some minor surgical operation, to relive her vaginal tightness, which then enabled the royal couple to consummate their union.[12]</p>
<p>The true cause of the couple&#8217;s infertility might have been revealed in a letter written by Marie-Antoinette&#8217;s brother, Joseph II, to their other brother, Leopold II. In April 1777. Joseph visited Louis and Marie-Antoinette in France, and he had a frank talk with both of them regarding sexual matters. From this, he discovered that the King mated with his wife from a sense of royal duty rather than for the sexual pleasure. There was no problem with the King&#8217;s sexual organs: Joseph wrote, &#8220;he has strong perfectly satisfactory erections&#8221;, and &#8220;he sometimes has night-time emissions&#8221;. Their problem was reportedly that when the King and Queen had sexual intercourse, &#8220;he introduces the member, stays there without moving for about two minutes, withdraws without ejaculating but still erect, and bids goodnight&#8230;when he is inside and going at it&#8230;[ejaculation] never happens.&#8221; In the Emperor&#8217;s opinion, this couple consisted of &#8220;two complete blunderers&#8221;, who had nothing wrong with them aside from lack of sexual knowledge and meaningful desire to mate.[13]</p>
<p>Joseph, it would appear, remedied the couple&#8217;s ignorance during his conversations with the two of them. By August, the marriage was finally consummated, and the pair had thanked him for his advice, to which they attributed the consummation.</p>
<p>I am a Professor of French History. I think you should update and change this post because you are giving out false information.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word: WOW :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word: WOW <img src='http://www.marie-antoinette.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just watched the movie with Hilary Swank (the affair of the necklace)  loved it but the movie did not totally follow the above bio but then hollywood had to add a bit of juice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just watched the movie with Hilary Swank (the affair of the necklace)  loved it but the movie did not totally follow the above bio but then hollywood had to add a bit of juice</p>
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		<title>By: roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a very nice telling. thank you, i benefited and enjoyed reading it.i am happy all the time it took to read was fruitful. thank you very very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a very nice telling. thank you, i benefited and enjoyed reading it.i am happy all the time it took to read was fruitful. thank you very very much.</p>
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		<title>By: anadika</title>
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		<dc:creator>anadika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie was really dumb but stylish</description>
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played that video game too! Haha
thanks so much for the information, you pretty much saved my life on a history paper I&#039;m writing! Impressed that it was impartial
-stacy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played that video game too! Haha<br />
thanks so much for the information, you pretty much saved my life on a history paper I&#8217;m writing! Impressed that it was impartial<br />
-stacy</p>
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		<title>By: Eliana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woooow! ive learned so much! i am exremely interested in this topic. ive learned about it in a video game and wanted to know if it was true or not. (parts of it was) Thank you for this.it has helpd alot for my research paper! i wonder if any guys hav read this... ( random much? lol ) wait. cody, i completly agree w u. i wonder if she was as evil as every1 thought or if she rlly was just a wrongly accusd beautiful lady (which othr chicks were jealous of). a mystery is wat Marie is. i also wonder if there is a dairy so ppl couldve seen wat her life was like. Wat SHE was like. 
 -13 , Eliana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woooow! ive learned so much! i am exremely interested in this topic. ive learned about it in a video game and wanted to know if it was true or not. (parts of it was) Thank you for this.it has helpd alot for my research paper! i wonder if any guys hav read this&#8230; ( random much? lol ) wait. cody, i completly agree w u. i wonder if she was as evil as every1 thought or if she rlly was just a wrongly accusd beautiful lady (which othr chicks were jealous of). a mystery is wat Marie is. i also wonder if there is a dairy so ppl couldve seen wat her life was like. Wat SHE was like.<br />
 -13 , Eliana</p>
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