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Marie Antoinette

Marie Antoinette was the beautiful Queen of France who became a symbol for the wanton extravagance of the 18th century monarchy, and was stripped of her riches and finery, imprisoned and beheaded by her own subjects during the French Revolution that began in 1789.



Austrian Princess

As her life began there was little hint of this total reversal of life’s fortunes. Marie Antoinette was born in 1755 at very apex of the European social pyramid.

She was born a princess and archduchess, the 15th daughter of Maria Teresa, Empress of Austria. The Hapsburg house of Austria was the oldest royal house of Europe, and the young princess enjoyed the relaxed environment of the Schonbrünn Palace and the indulgence of tutors her parents, brothers and sisters.

Marie Thérèse was famous Austrian empress who counted among her many accomplishments her ability to marry her many children in ways strategic to the Austrian empire. So it was with Marie Antoinette. For her pretty and favourite daughter, Marie Thérèse arranged a special marriage to cement the new alliance with France that she had concluded with Louis XV. So, Marie Antoinette was to leave Austria to the most prestigious throne in all Europe.

French Queen

The life of Marie Antoinette was the stuff of dreams when she was married at age 14 to the crown prince of France, the dauphin. France was then the most powerful nation of continental Europe, and the royal palace at Versailles the most opulent. The young princess could hardly have hoped for a more prestigious marriage and her magnificent marriage ceremony in 1770 was unmatched in royal pageantry.

At the border she was stripped and re-dressed with clothing fashionable at the French court. When she was presented to the French king Louis XV, he pronounced her delightful, and told others of her fine full figure, of which he much approved. She became dauphine surrounded by all the comforts of the French court.

Her enchanted life reached its pinnacle when the old king died and her husband became King Louis XVI in 1774. Marie Antoinette, still a teenager became Queen of France.

Unhappy Marriage and Boredom

But this daughter of life’s fortune was unhappy in her marriage. Louis was homely, awkward and hardly her heart’s desire. His devotion to the hunt, clocks and his workshop and his early hours were in contrast to her pursuit of the arts, fashion, dance and French nightlife. The contrast of Charles and Diana comes to mind. While King Louis XV, her husband’s brothers, Provence and Artois, and others at court noticed at once her grace and beauty, her own shy husband was slow to exercise the rights of the marriage bed. From afar, Louis XVI, like the others, much admired Marie’s physical charms and her character, and Louis would become a thoroughly devoted husband, but in her early years in France he was little comfort to her.

Pushed by her mother’s letters, Marie still sought out Louis. Yet, to add to Antoinette’s frustration, even when she could achieve intimacy with him, Louis was unable to achieve erection. So, Antoinette and Louis were unable to have sex and their marriage went unconsummated for seven years. It took the intervention of the Queen’s oldest brother, emperor Joseph of Austria, in a heart to heart meeting with Louis in 1777, to convince him to have the needed operation. Meanwhile, the teenage queen suffered in silence as she was snidely taunted for her inability to produce an heir to the throne.

Beyond her personal frustrations with her husband, Marie Antoinette was bored with her position and its duties. The days of the young princess and then queen were spent in endless court rituals and strict etiquette tracing to the days of Louis XIV.

The young queen tired of being constantly on public display with the requirements of her position. She missed the more relaxed environment and freedom of Vienna. Her displeasure and sarcasm directed at the older aunts and members of the high nobility were noticed and commented upon.

Circle of Friends

Marie Antoinette sought escape from her marital frustration and the boredom of court life. Time went by and she began to exercise power as queen, Marie Antoinette spent less time at court, and surrounded herself with a dissolute clique, led by Yolande de Polignac and Thérèse de Lamballe. She lavished expensive gifts and positions upon these friends and in doing so ignored the great houses of the French nobility.

With her young friends, Marie Antoinette threw herself into a life of pleasure and careless extravagance. These included masked balls in Paris, gambling, theatricals and late night promenades in the park. Her circle included the King’s frivolous young brother the Count of Artois, and handsome young courtiers the Duc de Ligne, Counts Dillon, Vaudreuil and Axel Fersen.

The Queen’s indiscretions with her circle of friends led to scandals such as the Diamond Necklace Affair and rumours concerning her relations with that circle including Axel Fersen.

Extravagant Life

The young queen, with her blonde beauty and style set fashion trends through France and Europe. Her painter Vigee Lebrun commented about the translucent colour of her complexion, her long blonde hair and her well-proportioned and full-bosomed figure. All commented how well she carried herself. Her page Tilly said she walked better than any woman and as you’d offer a woman a chair, you’d offer her a throne.

The queen enjoyed her beauty style, but her fashion fame came at a price. The Queen spent lavishly on her dress and adornments. Each year she exceeded her clothing allowance which the King covered. The excessive fashions for high headdresses, plumes and voluminous dresses were subject to public comment, caricature and on occasion ridicule.

The queen also spent lavishly on her friends as mentioned and on her entertainment including her retreat at Petit Trianon. This small palace adjoining Versailles was given to Marie by Louis XVI. There she arranged extensive interior decorations and building of a theatre for her theatricals and the Temple of Love in the park.

Marie also had built a rustic Viennese retreat called the hameau. Here, she played at being at being a simple milkmaid. To add to the fun, Sevres porcelain bowls were cast using Marie Antoinette’s own ample breasts as their mould (as was said to have had been done in the case of Helen of Troy). The hameau was stocked with perfumed sheep and goats, but the actual milking and chores were done by servants.

Anger at the Queen

By the late 1780s, envy and hatred of Marie Antoinette were widespread. Many at court had always opposed the Austrian alliance, and had resented her efforts to intercede on occasion for Austrian causes.

The king’s brother the Count of Provence and his cousin the Count of Orleans both thought they were more capable than Louis XVI. They were jealous both of Louis’s kingship and his marriage to the beautiful Marie Antoinette.

Many others among the nobility were envious of the Queen and insulted by her dismissal of court etiquette, preference for her small court circle and the patronage she wielded on their behalf. Thus, disaffected members of the nobility became fertile sources for dirt on the queen. They fabricated and circulated scurrilous stories about the Queen and her private life. Stories accused of all sort of sexual acts with men and women of the court, of sending funds to Austria, and challenged the paternity of the royal children.

Diamond Necklace Affair

By the mid 1780s tales of the queen’s extravagance, dissipation and sexual vice abounded. It was at this point that the Diamond Necklace Affair became the sensation, grabbing the attention of the entire nation.

The affair fused three disparate situation, united by widely held beliefs in the loose morals of Marie Antoinette. For years an impoverished scion of past Valois nobility, Madame Lamotte schemed to gain a position at court. At the same time, socially prominent Prince de Rohan, the Cardinal of France was unhappy over his years of exclusion from Marie Antoinette’s inner circle, and the jeweller Boehmer was unable to convince Marie Antoinette to buy a fabulously expensive diamond necklace originally made for Louis XV’s lover Madame du Barry.

Lamotte was a full figured attractive woman who caught the attention of both men, and was able to convince them she was a lesbian lover of Marie Antoinette. Lamotte convinced Rohan that the Queen indeed wanted the necklace and Rohan obtained it from Boehmer and gave it to Lamotte after meeting a prostitute dressed as Marie Antoinette at a late night rendezvous near the Temple of Love, where the Queen was said to hold lovers’ trysts with others.

When Boehmer approached the Queen for payment (just as she was preparing for to play a role in a banned Beaumarchais play Le Figaro), the charade unravelled. When they learned the basic facts of the affair, both king and queen were enraged that Rohan would think that the queen would use a go-between to obtain a necklace.

Necklace Trial and Impact

Royal pique proved disastrous. The cardinal, highest churchman in France, was arrested on the Day of Assumption in the middle of the entire court. Next the Queen demanded public vindication, so the king obtained a trial before the Parlement of Paris.

The trial proved a sensation for months, with the dirty laundry of the monarchy paraded before all France. The cast included the highest nobles, charlatans, a prostitute who looked like the Queen, and above all the fabulous diamond necklace and the Queen herself despite never being called as witness. In the end, the nobility displayed their defiance before the entire nation in the Diamond Necklace Affair with their acquittal of Prince de Rohan on the charge of insulting the queen. The ruling of the Parlement of Nobles effectively said that at the least, given her reputation, the queen was worthy of such insult. Rohan could reasonably believe Marie Antoinette would use him as a go-between and in the end exchange her sexual favours for a diamond necklace.

When the not guilty verdict was announced in the crowded Paris opera house an enormous roar went up and all eyes turned to the royal box. A shocked Marie Antoinette hastily departed for her coach, amid the crowd’s hoots.

The court did convict the less well connected Lamotte, and she was branded on her breasts and imprisoned. But her husband had escaped to England and she escaped prison. She exacted her revenge by concocting and circulating a tale that she was indeed the queen’s lesbian lover, that the queen was insatiable in her desires and that the queen got the necklace and the affair was all for her amusement. As fabulous as her story was, it circulated in the thousands and was widely believed. So much so that had she not died in 1793, Lamotte might well have testified against Marie at her trial.

Madame Deficit and Financial Crisis

Ironically, as the Diamond Necklace Affair erupted and the Queen’s popularity sank to its nadir, age and maturity tempered her lifestyle. Louis and Marie were able to have children and Antoinette bore four children. She spent less time with Paris night life and more with her children and family. Though still graceful and attractive, as she passed age thirty, Marie’s increasingly stout figure moved her toward darker colours. Her milliner Madame Bertin used less ostentatious fashion, while still showing Marie’s large bust to fine advantage. Even as she still flirted with men of court and spent much time with Axel Fersen, Louis was increasingly devoted to his handsome wife whom he adored.

While Marie’s personal life was settling down, the state of France was not. France also had bad harvests in the late 1780s and the poor suffered. The Queen was good hearted and kindly and tried to aid the poor of her country. She attended benefits for charity (including the night the Necklace verdict was announced), and used the hameau to aid a number of impoverished families. However, her small acts were hardly noticed amid the suffering. What was remembered was that the queen played at being a milkmaid and shepherdess, at the manicured hameau of Trianon, while real peasants starved. Her perceived insensitivity led many to believe she said “Let them eat cake”, when told of the widespread starvation.

Furthermore, France reeled under huge debts inherited from Louis XV which Louis XVI had been unable to repay. France’s debt was now a crisis, with the final straw being its France’s costly aid from 1778 to 1783 to the American colonies in their War of Independence with Great Britain. To try to revive the Queen’s popularity and rally support for the monarchy portraits were made and exhibited showing the Queen surrounded by her loving children. Yet the obvious royal propaganda backfired as detractors noticing the Queen’s expansive costume, dubbed the pictured heroine, “Madame Deficit”.

It was at this time, amid such increased unpopularity and still reeling from the aftershocks of the Necklace Affair, when Louis XVI most needed support from the nobility. He tried to effect needed reforms through a series of ministers, relying in each instance on advice from his Queen, and then he called an assembly of notables to again try to effect reforms to deal with the financial crisis. Louis was not a forceful king, his wife’s influence was resented and the position of the monarchy weakened.

Estates General – 1789

Tragedy struck Louis and Marie in 1789. Their oldest son and heir, the dauphin, was dying of a crippling, agonizing hereditary disease and would die in June. Besides her miscarriages, this was the second child dead; their second daughter had died in 1786. And now amid this grief, the couple faced the crisis that now threatened their rule, which would bring still further tragedies to this family.

Unable to force the nobility to make needed financial reforms, the desperate king called the Estates General in May 1789. This was the first time in 175 years it was called. But it was unique because it gave representation to common men, as one of the three estates able to vote. Louis did this to try to gain the support of the common people (third estate) to force needed reforms.

The Estate General did not begin auspiciously as the Queen’s appearance was met first by silence and then call Vive Duc Orleans – her scorned suitor and hated foe. This rebelliousness was a sign of what was to follow. The common people were not content with the limited role of the third estate Louis envisioned. The genie was now out of the bottle. The third estate declared itself the national assembly and in the Tennis Court Oath said it would not adjourn until France had a constitution.

Fall of the Bastille

Louis lacked the will to quell this rebellion but was repeatedly lobbied to take action by Marie Antoinette. The queen strongly desired to preserve absolute monarchy and was firm in her opposition to reforms that would give greater power to the common people.

However, with a taste of success, the common people did not want to see the third estate suppressed. In July, a mob of commoners seized the Invalides and obtained a supply of fire arms. The next effort was to obtain powder so they could defend the assembly as needed. For this effort the mob attacked a great symbol of absolute monarchy, the ancient and famous Bastille prison and fortress that loomed in the centre of Paris.

Louis failed to take prompt action and the mob succeeded in taking the Bastille. The governor of the Bastille who resisted and threatened to blow up the gun powder was hacked to death by the mob his head sported on pikes for all to see. The crowd had arms and ammunition. Lawlessness had occurred and no royal action had been taken in response. Louis went to Paris to restore calm but no actions were taken against those who stormed the Bastille.

The Great Fear

The storming of the Bastille greatly disturbed a number of nobles who knew the poverty of the common people and feared vengeance if royal power was inadequate to check mob impulses. Leading members of the royal court, including close friends of Marie Antoinette fled the country. These included in July and August the Count of Artois and Madame Polignac and in October her close friend and portraitist Vigee Lebrun.

The royal court at Versailles was just 20 miles from the raging cauldron of Paris. Marie Antoinette too feared the Paris mob and counselled Louis to repair to the country so he could quell rebellion from afar, but Louis would not leave Versailles.
The Queen was successful in convincing Louis to increase troops from the provinces, which they hoped would be loyal to the crown. Marie’s actions did not go unnoticed. Her proud bearing and perceived arrogance made her the prime target for vilification by the revolutionaries. Despite Antoinette’s efforts, the king was reluctant to confront the assembly after new troops were called in, but Louis would not fire on his own people. In the summer period called the “Great Fear” peasants revolted through the countryside in fear that the king under pressure from the queen and her “Austrian committee” would put down revolution. In August, the Declaration of the Rights of Man was published renouncing noble titles, the people further asserting their position seeking equal rights against reassertion of absolute monarchy.

March of Women

On October 1 1789, a great banquet for the royal guards was held at Versailles, where royal and Austrian banners were cheered and toasts made to king and queen in attendance while the tricolour cockade of the French people was trod under foot. Tales of the banquet and “orgies” spread to the Paris slums where a new bread shortage was looming.

Parisians said enough is enough and on October 4, a great mob collected to demand bread from the king. The next day the mob mainly of Parisian women marched thought the driving rain to Versailles to put an end to orgies and demand bread. Many brandished knives and swore to use them to “cut the pretty throat of the Austrian” who was the source of all their problems. “How glad I’d be to put this blade into her belly up to my elbow.” Others vowed to cut different “pieces of Antoinette”.

On reaching Versailles, they met with the assembly and had a brief audience with the king. Again, the Queen had wished to flee at their advance, but Louis would neither depart nor fire on the women. That night the mob (perhaps aided by agents of the Duke of Orleans) found an unguarded entrance and was directed straight to the apartments of the sleeping queen. As they hurled their imprecations to “kill the Austrian whore”, the Queen’s two guards gave their lives to save her, as Madame Campan and her other maids hastily gathered some clothes and underwear, and Marie Antoinette ran from her bed literally “half naked” (by some accounts) to narrowly elude her attackers. They later ripped the Queen’s bed to pieces.

Installation at Tuileries

The Queen had escaped with her life, but the mob was not satisfied. They later demanded that king and queen appear on the balcony before them and then that the monarchs return with them to Paris. And so, Louis and Marie left Versailles to be installed in the dusty unused Tuileries palace in Paris. Marie Antoinette would never again see her beloved Petit Trianon. From then on, the king and queen would be under the close scrutiny of the common citizens of Paris and vulnerable to attack from them. For king and queen were acutely aware that the move to Paris was not of their choosing but they were powerless to overrule the dictate of the mob.

In 1790 and 1791, the revolution seemed to have stabilized. However, the seeds for future discord and for a more violent revolution were already being sown. The emboldened assembly gave broad rights to the people, at the expense of the nobles and clergy. Many of the reforms were voted into law over the king’s veto. Louis was particularly anxious over the civil oath now required of Roman Catholic clergy.

Flight to Varennes

Many nobles had fled France, and Marie Antoinette feared for her safety and royal authority. She conspired with these émigrés and sought aid from other European rulers including her brother, the Austrian Emperor. After the death of the leading moderate politician, Conte Mirabeau in 1791, and further actions of the Assembly infringing the authority of Roman Catholic clergy, Marie convinced the reluctant Louis to flee France.

The queen’s friend and rumoured lover Axel Fersen from his own pocket arranged the needed coach, assumed identity papers and escape plans. The royal couple with their children all disguised as common travellers, escaped from Paris. The king and queen had insisted that they travel with all needed comforts, so their coach was lumbering and slow. It required extra horses and changes and attracted attention.

At one change an alert patriot noticed an attractive but familiar woman who issued orders though dressed as a maid. He thought he recognized the queen and from a gold piece given as a tip recognized the king. This patriot Jacques Drouet sped ahead and reached the small town Varennes and alerted the people who confronted the king and queen on arrival. They had travelled over 200 miles and were just near the French-Austrian border and loyal troops ready to rescue them. But the rescue did not occur. A humiliated king and queen were forced to return to Paris over dusty roads over the course of the next four days. Frenchmen came from near and far to gaze and glare at the famous captives, on several occasions almost assaulting them. Later members of the assembly arrived and crowded into the coach with them.

When they arrived in Paris they met complete silence with all men keeping on their hats and no salutes or other sign of deference to the king. The weary travellers were caked in dust and sweat. As Campan drew the bath for Marie Antoinette, and Queen removed her hat and veil, both noticed the Queen’s blonde hair was now completely white from the fright and torment of the journey.

Downfall of Monarchy

After the disastrous flight to Varennes, Marie Antoinette at first worked with constitutional monarchist Barnave to try to restore royal prestige. However, hatred of the queen now rose to new levels.

Marie Antoinette began anew to seek aid from abroad to intervene in France and restore royal authority. Austria and Prussia threatened France on behalf of the royal family and France declared war on those powers in April 1792, again over the king’s veto. In June, the Tuileries palace was invaded and sacked by a mob, the king and queen held up to ridicule and humiliation but not otherwise harmed. At the same time, calls for volunteers arose under the cry “Patrie en Danger”, as Frenchmen were called to repel the invaders.

In July 1792, as Prussian armies invaded France, the Duke of Brunswick threatened the people of Paris that if any harm came to persons of the king or queen, serious vengeance would be exacted by the invaders on France. The proclamation was made public and caused a sensation in the country.

On August 10, 1792, the Tuileries palace was stormed by the populace, who sought refuge in the Assembly. The king and queen and their family were installed in the tiny reporter’s box, amid stifling heat, glares and heckling of the crowd. In that cage, they heard the reports of the fall of the Tuileries and massacre of the 900 Swiss guards who had stayed to defend them. They watched as treasures from the Tuileries were piled on the speaker’s desk including papers, jewels, precious objects of the royal family. They listened to the debates which voted to suspend and then end the monarchy. A Republic declared and the royal family imprisoned in the Temple fortress.

Reign of Terror

Other aristocrats were imprisoned at this same time. As the fortunes of French armies in the field waned the cry went up to kill traitors in their midst. Hundreds of aristocrats were massacred in the prisons in September 1792. The most famous victim was Madame Lamballe, close friend of Marie Antoinette who had returned to Paris to aid her in time of peril. Lamballe was summoned before a tribunal and when she failed to swear an oath against the queen, she was hacked to death by the mob, her head, breasts and genitals severed and mounted on pikes, and paraded before the Queen’s window in the Temple. The Reign of Terror had now begun.

The royal family was under close guard and now shorn of all their finery and servants and forced to live simply in the confines of the Temple fortress. But their peace was not to last.

In December 1792, King Louis XVI was summoned before the National Convention and tried for treason. He was convicted and on a close vote sentenced to death. In January 1793, Louis XVI was executed on the guillotine. In the two years that followed thousands more would be tried before revolutionary tribunals and similarly executed on the guillotine.

The Queen’s Fate

After her husband’s death, in July 1793, Marie Antoinette’s son was forcibly taken from her. The poor woman begged that her son be allowed to stay but she was powerless to change the will of the ministers. The boy was put under the care of Simon, a cobbler and one of the Commissaires of the Commune, and died of neglect within two years.

In September 1793, Marie Antoinette was separated from her daughter and sister in law. Now called “Widow Capet”, Marie was transferred to months of solitary confinement in the dank Conciergerie prison, where she was under twenty-four hour guard by revolutionaries who from behind their screen watched her every move. The Conciergerie prison was the antechamber to death. In this dank prison, she lost much weight and her eyesight began to fail, but she did not have long to live.

On October 14, the poor pallid woman was awoken at night and faced the Revolutionary Tribunal. The trial was a horror, with the Queen attacked more as a person than as a queen. Her own son was forced to testify that she abused him. The queen bravely replied to all charges and to this she said, “If I make no reply, it is because I cannot, I appeal to all mothers in this audience.”

Despite her eloquence, the verdict was never in doubt. Like the king, Marie was found guilty.

When she rode to her death on October 16, 1793, many gasped … for Marie Antoinette was just 38, but the crowd saw (as artist David sketched) an old hag in peasant garb, ragged and grey – a stark contrast to elegant and voluptuous Queen of Trianon, the child of fortune, she had been just 4 years earlier. Marie Antoinette’s hair had been roughly shorn, her with hands tied tight behind her back, as she rode in the garbage cart amid the crowd’s whistles and jeers. Yet, the poor woman sat straight and tried to retain her dignity. To the end, Marie Antoinette displayed a queen’s bearing and courage, in the face of all adversity.

After her final ordeal, the body of Marie Antoinette was harshly pushed on to the guillotine plank, her head placed in the vice and at noon the blade fell to loud cheers all round. In the words of a revolutionary organ, “Never has Piere Duchesne seen such joy as seeing that [expletive] whore’s head separated from her [expletive] crain’s neck”. Sanson held her bleeding head high for all to see. Later her head was throne in the cart between her legs. The body of Marie Antoinette was left on the grass before being dumped in an unmarked grave. So ended the life of once the most illustrious and glamorous woman in all Europe.

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87 Comments

  • Comment by dawn — October 16, 2009 @ 10:06 AM

    Tragic end to a misunderstood life. One wonders if she ever knew any true happiness. Today is the anniversary of her death, and for some reason ( without knowledge of this ) I felt compelled to google her name. Strange ?????

  • Comment by Casey — October 20, 2009 @ 10:15 AM

    I am doing a report on her. A biography and personality based views. Then I have to dress up like her and wear the outfit to school… And even act like her.

  • Comment by Crystal — October 20, 2009 @ 7:26 PM

    Intereseting I bought my Marie Antoinette costume the day of her death, I never really knew of her ’til today.

  • Comment by jewel — October 22, 2009 @ 6:14 PM

    im reading one of her books and i eay its good.

  • Comment by joanna — October 23, 2009 @ 1:17 PM

    Marie Antoinette was not the Empress’ favourite daughter. In fact, she was often neglected by Maria Theresa, and described her relationship with her mother as one of “awe-inspired fear.” Marie’s older sister, Marie Christina was the favourite, and because of this Marie Antoinette disliked and mistrusted intelligent, older women.

  • Comment by carolinz — October 26, 2009 @ 7:11 AM

    RE: joanna

    yea, I read about it too; regarding Marie, in fact, was the least favourite. Therefore, she was being selected to get married to the Prince of France… so which is true?

  • Comment by Adrienne — October 26, 2009 @ 3:54 PM

    It is not true that she was selected to marry a Prince of France because she was least favourite. Marie Therese made a point of marrying her daughters well and at that time marrying into the House of Bourbon was incredibly pretigious. It is true however that Marie Antoinette was not her mother’s favourite and the article has been amended accordingly.

  • Comment by Sue — October 27, 2009 @ 8:07 AM

    Just saw the horrible premier of “Marie Antoinette” on Lifetime last night. If it weren’t for the amazing scenery and period costumes I wouldn’t have bothered; it really was that bad! Just the same, I find I’m now as fascinated by Marie as by any of King Henry’s wives. I would appreciate any recommendations as to good biographies of Marie that aren’t mind-numbingly detailed as to the political situation of her day but still give a faithful account.

  • Comment by Jeannie — October 27, 2009 @ 11:59 AM

    This poor girl had an unfortunate upbringing with a Mother who attempted to ‘do right’ by her and marry her off to a would be King who I assumed was Gay by the way he was supposedly around her and all but ignored her advances to him. He did very little to nothing at all in the end to come to his wife’s aid and attempt to ’stick up for her’ for lack of a better terminology and in the end she met with such a sad, tortured, ridiculed and obscene death, I can’t help but compare her life, torture and end to that of Jesus Christ’s the way her ‘own people’ turned on her and wanted her killed as did Jesus’s people turned on him.
    Obviously she’s in no way to be compared to that of the Son of God, but if you think about it — their lives, death and the turmoil that surrounded their lives and how people befriended them both seems to be comparible I think you’ll agree.
    May God have mercy on her soul for at least she is now at peace now, one would hope!
    I never realized how much of a twisted, ridiculed and tortured life this poor woman had to endure as a “QUEEN” of a country. If this is a Queen’s Life, I’m glad I’m a nobody thank you very much!

  • Comment by vicky — October 27, 2009 @ 1:02 PM

    yeah it is sad but she is stuck-up though she didn’t care for nobody but herself. thats wat i think but like everybody says there are two- sides to every story.

  • Comment by Jacqui — October 31, 2009 @ 8:21 PM

    Re vicki:
    Don’t be stupid- “she is stuck-up”! please… How the hell can you have an opinion on someone who you’ve never met?!?! It’s just dumb. And Jeannie don’t compare the way she died to Jesus… you don’t even REALLY know if Jesus existed… the stories about him were written hundreds of years after he was supposed to have lived!!! For all anyone knows it could just be a STORY!!!
    - p.s: really like the article- whether its factual or not it’s a good read.

  • Comment by AB — November 3, 2009 @ 1:52 PM

    Re Sue

    Antonia Fraser’s biography ‘Marie Antoinette: The Journey’ is well recommended. A superb writer who presents the subject “in the round”.

  • Comment by Ms. America — November 3, 2009 @ 3:33 PM

    Marie was a child forced into a marriage not of her choice. She was held to public ridicule, and branded a whore by gossip. I admire her courage and stamina to bare it. She died holding her head high ( no pun intended ) just like the Queen she was. To all of you making negative remarks of her should do a little more research. Louis was a pussy!

  • Comment by Ms. America — November 3, 2009 @ 3:37 PM

    By the way I do agree with Jacqui. Except Marie is real and Jesus is not.

  • Comment by justice — November 3, 2009 @ 4:20 PM

    I feel bad for the poor girl! I mean, if i had a husband who ignored me and all that like her, I’d probably do the same thing!!

  • Comment by Genie — November 8, 2009 @ 5:28 PM

    Same here. She went though a lot a lot of ridicule. By the way, Ms. America, how the hell do you know that Jesus is not real, huh? It could be possible.

  • Comment by Genie — November 8, 2009 @ 5:34 PM

    Re Ms. America:
    P.S. Im not saying that he is, but do you really know whether he really existed or not? What Vicky wrote was totally stupid though, comparing Marie to Jesus.

  • Comment by sheena — November 9, 2009 @ 9:35 AM

    I think it’s terrible and sad that her life ended the way it did. however I can understand how the common folk came to place blame on her. Once somebody starts rumors and saying things like the whole orgy and “let them eat cake” thing you just get that “crowd of sheep” affect.

  • Comment by Kelly — November 10, 2009 @ 5:21 PM

    I’m doing a biography of Marie Antoinette in school and i was very shocked how her life ended! I think her life if really interesting and i’m glad i have knowledge about her now!

  • Comment by Sue — November 11, 2009 @ 8:51 AM

    Thanks AB for the recommendation. I’d seen some negative reviews of her book but as I already have her “The Wives of Henry VIII” I think this would be a good read as well. Thanks again! :)

  • Comment by Hannah — November 12, 2009 @ 7:40 AM

    one: who cares if jesus is or is not real that has nothing to do with the life of marie antionette
    two: how can you tell that marie was stuck up YOU HAVE NEVER MET HER!!!!!!!!
    three:I have read Marie Antoinette: the journey It was so good i totally recomend it

  • Comment by Jenna — November 15, 2009 @ 4:48 PM

    I had to do a report on her but I find her life so fascinating(though it’s tragic) it didn’t feel like a report I’m so glad I picked her as a topic.

  • Comment by Nancy — November 17, 2009 @ 7:00 PM

    I am fascinated by the story of Marie Antoinette. While she is best remembered wearing the huge court panniers and high dressed hair of the mid 18th century, she atually seemed to favor a simpler life as she grew older. She introduced the muslin dress, retreated to the quiet unregimented life of Petit Trianon and spent more time with her children that most monarchs of her era. She was generous and kind, according to most accounts. Revolutionaries discredited her with false rumors in widely distributed pamphlets. Remarkably, those rumors exist even today.

    I don’t know why I feel such a loyalty to this long-ago queen. A few years ago I went to a psychic for regression hypnotism, expecting to go back to 18th century France. I was suprised not to go there — it seems my past lives were lived in other times – there was nothing that surfaced about the French Revolution, even though that is the point in history that I have studied most fervently. Go figure!

    For some odd reason, I have this desire that the public take the time to understand Marie Antoinette. I wish there were ways to prove how devout she was as a royal, a wife, a mother, and a Catholic. People have said she’s ’stuck up’ but for heaven’s sake, she was a Queen. They are different from you and me. Look at today’s Queen Elizabeth. She’s modern but she’s the Queen! When Princess Diana came on the scene, I had this feeling that she was the reincarnation of Marie Antoinette. The way she doted on her kids, led fashion and became the people’s princess seemed like Marie Antoinette Deja Vu. The absentee husband, out hunting….the abiding and very public love for her children, the waxing and waning love of the public…it all seemed strangely familiar. And sure enough, Princess Diana died in Paris in her 30s, like Marie Antoinette, in a very public place, in a public spectacle, hounded by the paparazzi as Marie Antoinette was hounded by the revolutionaries. The parallels are probably even stronger if someone were to really investigate it.

    I am grateful for this site and the opportunity to further explore the life of the enigmatic and beautiful Marie Antoinette. Keep up the good work.

  • Comment by teehee — November 18, 2009 @ 4:28 PM

    i have to do a report for world history. it’s a hall of fame or hall of shame poster and we had to choose someone of signifigance during the french revolution. i decided to do the poster on her….hall of shame. why shameful yuu ask? she contributed to France’s debt for her outrageous fashions.

  • Comment by Cecilie — November 21, 2009 @ 1:54 PM

    Marie Antoinette’s reputation was one of the many victims of the French Revolution. It is RIDICULOUS to assume that she contributed significantly to France’s debt. France’s money problems are better attributed to Louis XIV, the so called “Sun King” who built Versailles. Marie Antoinette was a charming, talented, and kind girl. She never said “Let them eat cake.” This comment is believed to have been made by a certain Marie Therese, the Spanish wife of Louis XIV. As for the lack of activity in the bedroom, Louis XVI was not gay. He suffered from phimosis, a condition that made it extremely painful for him to become aroused. Calling Marie Antoinette “stuck up” is really a stretch. She cared for her friends, her family, and her people. She attended charity benefits and did what she could to provide aid where it was needed. Unfortunately revolutionaries latched on to the opulent image she represented, and no amount of charity would have satiated them. Her actions in youth may have been unwise, but I do not believe she ever meant any harm to anyone.

  • Comment by Paulie — November 21, 2009 @ 4:12 PM

    I don’t think french’s debt is entirely her fault I mean yes she spent lots of money but her husbend and father in law were the ones who first started France’s debt. Marie’s contribution to it is just more noticable.

  • Comment by louis — November 24, 2009 @ 8:45 AM

    i feel disgusted about the whole french revolution.
    i can understand that the people wanted to abolish the monarchy for a reason or another but there was no need to tourture and kill the monarchy in such a gruesome way.
    italy’s monarch exiled somewhere else in europe.. they didnt get decapitated!!
    i am appaled by the way the whole of france treated their king and queen!
    last yeari went to versailles and the tour guide barely mentioned marie anotinette.. just saying she was a spoiled self centered queen with many vices and lack of empathy for her people. so thats exactly how many french people feel about her to this day.
    shame on france and its ignorance!!

  • Comment by Elaina — December 2, 2009 @ 11:20 AM

    French woman disgust me!!!
    Its a very sad situation…. though i don’t think it’s all her fault….

  • Comment by spongebob — December 6, 2009 @ 6:39 AM

    im doing a report on her for notable people in history i have to write a paper make a soap bottle doll,have fact cards,a timeline,bio poem,fact sheet,pictures and dress up like her!!

    NO KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment by Mikala — December 10, 2009 @ 10:26 AM

    I have to write a paper of her and act like im her friend and like i was there. any ideas?

  • Comment by Emily — December 14, 2009 @ 8:57 AM

    The life of Marie Antoinette was the stuff of dreams? Poetic, your talking about the last female monarch of France, come on now.

  • Comment by Michelle — December 19, 2009 @ 2:13 PM

    I really admire her although her life was really tragic, I wish I could have met her or prevented Louis XVI and her horrible death *cry* after I read a book about her I literally started to cry, it just touched me. The first time I ever cried over a book…

  • Comment by Elise — December 20, 2009 @ 2:50 AM

    I really admire Marie Antoinette despite her life being so tragic. When I first learnt of her I cried to learn of her horrid death but I still admired her for not conforming to the typical acts of Queen.

  • Comment by Sandra McDonald — December 26, 2009 @ 6:44 PM

    It is tragic that people can still be so simple minded about things they know nothing about. Marie Antoinette was a very young child thrust ino a woman’s position at the age of 15. Her life was spent away from family and without Love and understanding except for a few close friends. It amazes me how rumors and jealousy could be the downfall of humans even then. Her death was a great tragedy and she never got the respect she deserved as the Queen. It’s sad that she was treated with such little respect even as she was put to death. I watched the movie and have been deeply moved by her life. I’m glad I am not royality because if it’s anything like her life I’d rather stay poor and simple.

  • Comment by Brittani Dunn — January 1, 2010 @ 10:00 PM

    It’s so sad. She was misunderstood and all of the blame for the mismanagement of funds was placed upon her. Not to mention her indecisive husband who didn’t really help much to clear her name or correct the rumors flying around about her. The saddest part though, I think is that out of four children, they all died before reaching adulthood. Being royalty is obviously not all it’s cracked up to be. I:m so glad I wasn’t in her position. She was basically put in a lose-lose situation. So sad. :( R.I.P. Marie Antoinette. One positive though, she did change the fashions in the time for the better. :)

  • Comment by sfdhklfajl — January 4, 2010 @ 1:26 PM

    I have heard she was married at 14 and also at 15 which one is true?

  • Comment by Adrienne — January 4, 2010 @ 4:03 PM

    Well she was born in November 1755, her ceremonial marriage took place in May 1770 (she had already been married by proxy in April) making her 14 at the time of her marriage.

  • Comment by sfdhklfajl — January 5, 2010 @ 11:58 AM

    Thanks

  • Comment by Amber — January 6, 2010 @ 9:51 AM

    She is very interesting indeed. However, I find it more interesting that some are saying Jesus wasn’t real. Really? I understand that some are not Christian so it is possible to debate whether or not he is the Son of God. But to question if he was a real man? There is scientific proof that he existed. There are records(anyone questioning if Pilate or Tiberius Caesar was real?), take the time to so some research before spouting off and pretending that you are knowledgable about a subject that you apparently are not.

  • Comment by Adrienne — January 6, 2010 @ 10:02 AM

    Can we please keep the discussion here on topic and move on from a discussion of Jesus. There are many blogs and forums where you can discuss a) his reality and b) his divinity. This is not one of them. Any further comments on this will be edited and/or deleted.

    Thanks

  • Comment by Lancelot — January 6, 2010 @ 3:15 PM

    We all … ALL … have faults! The true measure of ones character is how we handle ourselves in defeat. Both Louis and Marie were brave, and deserve credit for their actions at the end (I can only imagine … think of it!). For this I say … Viva Louis … Viva Marie!

  • Comment by Lisa — January 7, 2010 @ 9:45 AM

    This is so sad…Yeah, she spent alot of money but did she ENTIRELY put France into debt? I think not.

  • Comment by janine quinlan — January 7, 2010 @ 5:18 PM

    It was the American Revolution which Louis was convinced to assist, that bankrupted the French Vault, as well as the cortesiers wanting their piece of the pie. Marie did as she was bred and married to do.

    No person deserves the despicable treatment that she and her poor children received, esp. someone who did not heap any harm or ill will on mankind.
    Despite the brainwashing of her son , the dauphin, who he was dragged away from her kicking and screaming for weeks on end, and was induced to evoke acccusations of sexual abuse supposedly perpetrated by her and her sister-in-law , Marie Antoinette never gave up on him and defended him to her daughter to the bitter end.
    This was one of the alleged “straws” that led to her guilty verdict, though it is doubtful that anyone would believe in their hearts that this Queen Mother would desecrate her son this way-given her secret enchantment with the Alex Ferson, but that is what the Consul would have like societe to believe. Guess what, only the angry mob likely believed that. Even her humble wig makers and prison servants paid with their lives to try to save her.
    Maybe that is why the French hate us (we caused the French Revoution-not)

  • Comment by Lorna Tilton — January 12, 2010 @ 5:15 AM

    It wasn’t that Louis didn’t like her, they were just children when forced to be married. #1 they were to young to have sex #2 Louis needed a small surgical procedure before he could have sex. #3 For the most part of her life Marie thought that her life was the way it was suppose to be, she had little knowledge of starving french and by the time she realized it was to late! #4 She and her children should have escaped sooner. Poor marie. Her abuse, torture and death should not have been allowed to happen. Shame on you french fishwives!

  • Comment by Lorna Tilton — January 12, 2010 @ 5:22 AM

    I have myself wondering, do todays french citizen’s feel any shame for having murdered their own king and queen or do the french still hate these people? Tears fall down my face reading marie’s story especially when we get to the part when the little daupin prince died of neglect in a dark, dank & sqaulid prison all alone. Gross! I would not want that on my conscience.

  • Comment by Hannah V — January 12, 2010 @ 9:17 AM

    I’m doing a report on herin school and all this info really helped me. We have to dress up like her and then sit for like an hour like in a wax musem.

  • Comment by Eva — January 19, 2010 @ 5:38 AM

    It’s so sad that she so fully ruined he own life like that. She probably had potential to be a great queen and wife and friend.

  • Comment by Sophia-Marie — January 22, 2010 @ 10:14 AM

    i do admit, Marie Antoinette’s story is the most intruiging of all the royal scandals of the time. she just wasn’t understood at all. all people thought of her was some selfish, self-centered Queen who didnt care about anyone else. yes, maybe she didn’t really benefit the country of France, but she was the most glamorous of all Queens. i admire her and the way she lived, but i wouldn’t want to be her.

    p.s. any reccomendations for books?

  • Comment by Adrienne — January 22, 2010 @ 3:37 PM

    Hi Sophia-Marie, thanks for your comment. There are lots of book recommendations and comments you can check out in the forum: http://forum.marie-antoinette.org/viewforum.php?f=11

  • Comment by Linda Foshee — January 27, 2010 @ 3:17 PM

    Has anyone in the French government been beheaded for debt problems
    since Marie Antoinette…..? I THINK NOT? How absurd that they
    would hold this women who was brought into this royal position it
    was not her choosing and held responsible for an entire countries
    debt…and to think what was done to her children through this
    entire episode….it just seems demonic. The US is in deep debt
    and the country is imploding in on itself and have we beheaded
    anyone ( I am sure we could pick out a few deserving people) but
    we have enough compassion for the human frailties that we forgive
    and move on with the business at hand. Killing does not end wars,
    and hunger and debt!

  • Comment by Cody — January 28, 2010 @ 12:42 AM

    Im doing a research report on Marie. I found this site very useful. Thank you!

  • Comment by blue — January 31, 2010 @ 3:47 AM

    I cried reading her biography…this is really sad..it’s so sad….especially her children…so so sad……

  • Comment by Duckie — February 8, 2010 @ 4:31 AM

    One of her children, Marie Therese, did survive to adulthood. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_Charlotte_de_France for details.

  • Comment by Michaela — February 15, 2010 @ 4:34 PM

    Her life and death is as interesting and sad as Mary, Queen of Scots, another misunderstood Queen. Neither queen did all she could have for her people – they were very interesting women and personalities but not very good rulers.

  • Comment by lexi — February 17, 2010 @ 10:37 AM

    I have never really liked Marie Antoinette. She did say, “Let them eat cake!” because she was so clueless about the depression.

  • Comment by Clare — February 17, 2010 @ 7:06 PM

    Actually she didn’t say “Let them eat cake!” at all. It amazes me that this myth persists. You are welcome to dislike Marie Antoinette, I would recommend that you do so on better grounds than you have just offered.

  • Comment by Donna — March 1, 2010 @ 11:39 AM

    The lofe of Marie Antoinette is fascinating and tragic. Just imagine yourself going through the agony of having some of her children die, and her son being dragged away from her, let alone her husband being killed, and being locked in a prison to rot away and die. By the time she was beheaded, she could possibly thought of death as a welcome rescue from the life she was forced to live.
    I have to question the violence of the time. The hackings, beheadings, and displaying the heads–and other body parts–on sticks, or arranging them in grotesque displays. Those people must have been psychotic. Has anyone done any research on these barbaric practices?
    In the end, may Marie Antoinette rest in peace. Long live the Queen!

  • Comment by Eliana — March 5, 2010 @ 2:43 PM

    i lyk Maries story , tho it was bittr-sweet
    i would say more but im not supossd to be on
    th computer. thanks so much for th info that
    i needed for th report!!

  • Comment by Jonsdogs — March 8, 2010 @ 10:43 AM

    this is the best website for marie antoinette i looked at all of them but this is the best

  • Comment by Lilmagpie — March 19, 2010 @ 11:43 AM

    Okay, so I have been OBSESSED with history like my whole life and Marie Antoinette is amazing! Even though when she got married wasn’t her named change to Maria Antoina… Im just say’n! Anywho… I think that she was truly unfairly exucuted! If anyone should have been punished it should have been 1) Maria Theresa for not propaly educating Marie 2) Louis dad for being a jerk! 3) Louis’ grandpa for starting absolutism!! She was just misunderstood! And also yes, she did buy in extravagance, but that was how she was raised! I don’t think she really knew what was going on till it was to late! Lastly, this revolution had been brewing looong before Marie, it just so happened that they snapped when she was there!
    If ya find any speeling mistakes you can keep them! :)

  • Comment by Sunny — April 8, 2010 @ 2:29 AM

    I just watched the movie Marie Antoinette with Kirsten Dunst and that compelled me to study more about her. Pretty fascinating stuff, as a lot of history is. {Edited for relevance}

  • Comment by Madeleine — April 8, 2010 @ 9:11 AM

    Wow, isnt this supposed to be comments about the biography? You girls should not post your religious beliefs on here, along with whether or not you saw the movie with Kirsten Dunst. I am an eighth grader from Arizona and to me, this whole debate that is going on through comments is unecessary. Just read the passage and post what you thought without including a whole life story. By the way, all you people that ignored the bickering and just said what you thought, good for you.

    Furthermore, I am aware that I am kind of acting like a hypocrite because I interveined but it was just really annoying to read the comments. So all you people that think I should take my own advice, I know that I should. I just felt the need to express my opinion.

    Lastly, I enjoyed the biography, it had alot of good, solid detail. It was a great information source for my biography scrapbook project I had to do. =)

  • Comment by Clare — April 8, 2010 @ 10:55 PM

    Thanks Madeleine, it’s good to see some sense from someone so young :) Anyone following the comments will notice that I am now editing them for relevance, if you post something unrelated to the article it will be edited and note a posted. It’s great to read the discussion and I’m please the article has been useful to you, but it’s more useful to all of us to keep the comments on topic.

  • Comment by Margi Seif — April 12, 2010 @ 5:06 AM

    I was very impressed with the amount of information provided by this website on the child queen. We have been to Paris and throughout France several times, and each time, went away with the impression that Marie Antionette was considered, by the Frence people, to be like a virus that “infected” the noble country of France. Obviously, their children are being taught revisionist history – the tool of the guilt-ridden. If the true history is not taught, how can they judge or learn from past mistakes?
    My hope is, that through your website, the children who tell us that they are doing reports on the last French queen, will put into prectice what they should have learned here about the damge of rumors, false judgement, mob rule mentality and the manipulative mechanacians of one or two mean-spirited persons.

  • Comment by lilmagpie — April 14, 2010 @ 6:41 AM

    K, I have corrections to make to my previous comment!
    Her name was originally Maria Antoina, and was changed to Marie Antoinette. I got kinda confused there. And When I said who should be blamed it was Louis’ grandfather for being a jerk and his great grandfather for starting absolutism!! I had forgotten about how Louis XV as Louis XVI’s grandfather!!
    I also want to thank who wrote this because I used it for my research paper at school and it was SUPER helpful!
    If you find any spelling mistakes you can keep them!! :)

  • Comment by Penelope — April 16, 2010 @ 3:21 AM

    I am doing a report for famous women, and I decided to pick Marie Antoinette. Why?
    French women are like stale chocolate. They have an appetizing appeal, when in reality it is hard & stale.
    Although I did think Marie Antoinette would be of the same impression, I was wrong. She had a love for all things exotic… of which I do not. We love to hate her because she had a luxury we don’t. She had men stepping all over others for her, (only for a short period,) & she had all of France’s debt at her feet. I hate and admire her.

  • Comment by Penelope — April 16, 2010 @ 3:23 AM

    Oh, I forgot to mention I am only in the fifth grade.

  • Comment by Lisa — April 22, 2010 @ 4:14 PM

    Actually, Marie A. was a typically spoiled, over-indulged royal who really happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, historically speaking. She is not alone in her experience of, as a royal, being married off to a stranger at age 14, and probably this couple was not the only royal couple who had troubles sexually at such a young age. This was a pitiful aspect of life for most royals at that time.

    Marie was young and foolish in many of her choices–her breach of protocol made many enemies, and her party-spirit lifestyle (which she had been warned about but to no avail), and her extravagence opened the door for the kinds of over-the-top accusations made against her. Again, during any other time in history, these accusations would probably have passed. But because of the brewing egalitarian radicalism that was spreading all over France, mixed with the country’s financial troubles, there was no hope for Marie and Louis.

    Every revolution has to have a scapegoat for the people to rally against, and Marie was the scapegoat very much in the same way George III was in the American Revolution: real abuses were magnified to make the scapegoats seem even more wicked than they were, in order to stir up the public revolt.

  • Comment by emily steuber — May 1, 2010 @ 8:57 AM

    I’m sorry to say there are several inaccuracies in this biography, and it is immensely over-glamourized.

  • Comment by Clare — May 1, 2010 @ 10:34 AM

    Perhaps Emily, instead of merely saying there are inaccuracies it would be helpful to outline what those inaccuracies are? Otherwise your comment is practically useless …

  • Comment by lilly — May 5, 2010 @ 12:56 PM

    Wow..this was really helpfull! Her death was so tragic, she did alot of good things for the people of Frace! It is really sad that she is remembered for the line, “let them eat cake” because its not true that she ever said that!! she did however do tons of charity work, and was somewhat aware of the condition france was in. On the other hand she was spending huge sums of money and puting france in detb (well at least adding to the debt)not only that but she also had built a tiny farm, and would “work” in it pretending to be a maid. this did upset many people. So i guess i can understand both sides of the story. France was at the time were a revolution was needed.. they had suffered enough because of there monarchs in the past and had had enough… But that suffering wasnt caused by marie. This to me is the tragic part..she had to die because of the Kings and Queens before her, the people of France took their anger out on her, and her children.

  • Comment by lilly — May 5, 2010 @ 1:01 PM

    Opps I almost forgot to ask…what ever happened to Marie antoinette’s daughter?

  • Comment by barbara — May 10, 2010 @ 12:17 PM

    as the saying goes money doesn’t buy happiness!!

  • Comment by xxlamexx — June 2, 2010 @ 12:19 PM

    Who was the one that wrote this article?

  • Comment by Clare — June 2, 2010 @ 9:33 PM

    The author is anonymous.

  • Comment by Brittany — June 16, 2010 @ 2:19 PM

    I heard that Marie really didn’t die by beheading but by catching influenza during her time in prison?

  • Comment by Clare — June 16, 2010 @ 7:20 PM

    No that’s not true Brittany.

  • Comment by Kermi — July 8, 2010 @ 7:22 PM

    Hi,

    I’ve watched the movie & read all the comments above.

    One thing that everyone must keep in mind is that in that time period it was an acceptible action that the mob had done. The dismeberment, etc.

    I agree that it was a horrible thing to do & in this age it would be unthinkable in most areas of the world. If you investigate/read/research other monarchies of that time, it wasn’t a strange thing to torture, mame & make the innocent say things that would make them be found guilty nor make the innocent seem quilty. Torture of the “unthinkable” for us today was common place in the times of the old days. Even today torture of different sorts are still carried out.

    Marie was quite young to have been married off, as she was. Pressure from all sides on this young girl would make anyone crazy. It is sad that she had to endure the loss of her children, again that was a common thing then because of the lack of “our” medical knowledge.

    Kudos, for all your opinions & thoughts.

    P.S. the whole Jesus/Marie questions/doubts are really trival things to get defensive or not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone should respect others opinons & take them as such.

    Enjoy your weekend.

  • Comment by victoria — July 10, 2010 @ 12:12 PM

    A Queen at 14. Did she know what was to be expected from a Queen? Was she brought up to rule France? I’d like to know more about her background, not just her death. What was she like as a 14 year old child? And finally- why is there so much interest in just her and not Louie,

  • Comment by victoria — July 10, 2010 @ 12:16 PM

    Also, was she that pretty? Every picture I have seen of her shows one ugly, blah face. Oh, her luscious endowed breasts cannot be seen.

  • Comment by Gloria castillo — July 15, 2010 @ 3:37 AM

    this is a sad story

  • Comment by Deb — July 15, 2010 @ 11:32 PM

    I have to agree with Lisa’s post of 4/22. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong man – until maybe later when they came together as a couple, had their children, and began family life. I don’t think she was like Princess Diana because Diana went out of her way to come out of her palace and find out what the people needed – but Marie did not – for whatever reason. Maybe she was just too busy with her children or really didn’t care – no one will ever know for sure what her motives were. I’d be interested in finding about some prime sources for her motives. Were all her documents (letters, etc..) destroyed in the revolution? What strikes me as interesting is that so many people in their comments feel sorry for Marie at being married so young. Young marriages were extremely common at the time (not just in royal families) – if you weren’t married by 18 you were in danger of being the subject of gossip about why you were still single. Children in the 1700’s were not the children we know today. They were given responsibilities at a very young age compared to modern times. They were treated as adults from a very young age and girls often had their first babies as “teen moms”. When you think about the average age of death as being 40ish for middle class people – it kind of makes sense to marry young and have your children young. Also, when so many children died young – it made sense to start having them young and to have many of them so that you could have some survive to help do the work of the house and farm. I think that in our treatment of children in these modern times, we have actually allowed our young people stay “children” way too long and be less responsible and less able to adjust to the realities of how tough life really can be – but that’s a different topic.

  • Comment by Juniper — July 16, 2010 @ 7:04 AM

    I just found this site after reading about her on wikipedia, after seeing the movie with Kirsten Dunst. I thought this site had better info than wikipedia and I am glad I found it, esp the part about the “necklace affair”……wasn’t there a movie about that?? Anyone remember the name, or am is that just wishful thinking??
    I also wanted to add my 2 cents to the whole debate as to whether or not she was a “good person” No one who lives today really knows what she was honestly like, I’m sure most ref books of those days were not 100% accurate. I found her story sad, and was disappointed in the way there goverment endned things, but since I was not there for the events, I can’t really say that she was mean, or rude or “got what she deserved”. From what I’ve read and seen she seemed to have been someone who was kind and loving. Interesting bit about whether or not the French still hate them today…. that is something I would like to know!

  • Comment by Clare — July 16, 2010 @ 10:29 AM

    Yes there was a movie – The Affair of the Necklace (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242252/). Hilary Swank played Jeanne de La Motte, and Joley Richardson was Antoinette.

  • Comment by courtney — July 23, 2010 @ 5:18 PM

    Ummm.. i feel very sad for marie antoinette. for the life she had to receive at a very young age. lost and unaware of her true fate.im glad that she went through these things to let us know that being royalty isnt always what you expect. and that it comes with sacrifices and consequences just as much as anything else would. i feel she play her positoin as queen as well as she could and that she did a great job! and for that i praise her for. i also feel anyone in her positoin would of had the same fate.. but they wouldnt of been able to play the role as great as she did.. soo really what im trying to say is that noone is perfect royalty or not were all human and made to make mistakes and go through pain and suffering. nd life is never fair even for a queen..and for that being said ..LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!!!!:) because she did her best.. something i kno i wouldnt have the power and strength to even imagine doing.Thank you Marie..for doing your best. thanx thats all i got to sayy.. :P
    -Court

  • Comment by Mishelle — July 27, 2010 @ 10:30 AM

    Ironically, I took a silly quiz on facebook in which it stated that I was like Marie Antoinnette in a past life. I became intrigued and stumbled onto this Biography. I found this Biography about Marie Antoinnette quite interesting and disturbing at the same time. It is sad to know that society plays such a devastating end to someone who was trying to enjoy life as she wished. She probably wanted to taste life and all it had to offer. Who really wants to be quiet and reserved all of the time? I am guessing that she was certain of herself and wasn’t concerned as to what people thought of her because she knew she was a good person who cared for the people who were loyal to her. Too bad she was scrutinized and seperated from her children. This makes me think of how often society does this in today’s time. Makes one wonder if we are treating someone unkindly and unfairly as well.

  • Comment by Fabian — July 28, 2010 @ 11:01 PM

    I find Marie Antoinette to be the most fascinating woman in France’s history and there are definitely many interesting women in that arena. It is very unfortunate however that the image that is most commonly held of her is that which was created by her detractors. She is incredibly enigmatic precisely because so much false information was spread about her both during her life and after her death. I’ve been reading about her for years and always feel as if I never quite get to know her. Visiting the palace at Versailles, and the Petit Trianon in particular, is about as close as I’ve ever felt I could come to her and her world.

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